Flattus · May 05, 2005, 01:41 AM // 01:41

i got a steel ingot from a regular sword using expert kit. sometimes i get 2-4 common items but doesn't happen frequently enough to compensate for the 400 price tag

thejynxed · May 05, 2005, 11:12 AM // 11:12

The price vs result ratios need tweaked. It's already rediculous enough seeing crafting materials sell for more than the final object is worth after it is crafted. I've paid far less for rares than I've ever paid for crafting materials. There is something wrong with that picture.

Lord Malikai · May 05, 2005, 12:03 PM // 12:03

I got furs from the following so far

Charr Hide
Minotaur Hide
Muggamo Hide (not sure on spelling, the centaur guys)

So, I am assuming you can get furs from any type of Hide, just very rarely does it actually work.

Belwas · May 05, 2005, 01:49 PM // 13:49

The really unfortunate thing about fur being so rare, is the items you can make with it do NOT justify the difficulty in the slightest. In the end, the only real difference is, you look slightly more unique, since most players are having a hard time finding that fur.

Cymmina · May 05, 2005, 02:04 PM // 14:04

You can get silk 100% of the time with an expert salvage kit on maguuma spider silk. Well, maybe not 100%, but I got it 4 out of 4 tries. Normal salvage kits just yield glittering dust.

mtxed · May 06, 2005, 06:26 AM // 06:26

first two tan hide squares gave me two furs, then the next 20 gave me nothing.. sold one fur for 1000 so i guess it balances out plus i made some $.. not like i need the fur anyways, just like the rest of the rare items, dont need them, just sell em for gold.. not even sure i need gold either, got like 5k profits just from selling but i havent spent a penny yet!

madsoul · May 07, 2005, 10:37 PM // 22:37

i got 3 fur from 13 hides using expert kit...boy i feel lucky

Iderius · May 08, 2005, 10:08 AM // 10:08

I'm pretty sure i came across a wandering material trader somewhere in the icy region following Yak's Bend. Of course it would b difficult to point out exactly where for obvious reasons, but jus try straying off course a little. He has steel and fur squares. Venture off at own risk though, it can get pretty swarmy. good luk.

Crimson_Phoenix · May 08, 2005, 04:38 PM // 16:38

I blew 44 char hides for no fur squares with the expert salvage kit, talk about an expensive waste.

Daikini · May 08, 2005, 09:21 PM // 21:21

People dont seem to realize how much chance has to do with salvaging. Here's a little chart to act as a guide to your chances with salvaging:

Using Salvage Kit:
.......................Common Salvage Item......Rare Salvage Item
Rare Material.................. Low ........................ Medium

Common Mat. .................High ....................... Medium
(Inc. runes,
weap mod, etc.)

Using Expert Salvage Kit:
.......................Common Salvage Item.......Rare Salvage Item
Rare Material...............Medium ........................High

Common Mat...............Medium ........................ Low
(Inc. runes,
weap mod, etc.)

So those are the basic percentages when it comes to salvaging. It isn't some concrete formula. Logically, Using the Expert salvage kit will give you a better chance of getting good stuff than using the normal salvage kit. A gold item is more likely to give you a good item than purple/blue/white items. If you expert salvage a gold item you will most likely salvage a good item. However, there is still a chance you will get a basic crafting material.

For all of you out there looking for fur, try to maximize your chances for salvaging it. Its certainly possible to use a normal salvage kit on a white chaar hide and get a fur, but it isn't very likely. Use an expert salvage kit on all the different types of hides in the game and you will eventually get all the fur you need! Good Luck and I hope this little visual can help people better understand how crafting works.

Dewolow · May 09, 2005, 02:48 AM // 02:48

I got tanned hide squares by using normal scavange item on the gear from humanoid creatures (for example grawls). So far it is 100%.

Nevik · May 09, 2005, 05:22 AM // 05:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by adam.skinner

I salvaged a "salvage item" and received a rare in return, and that only happens with expert kits. So yes, it's not only special items. gwonline has a listing from beta of what gives what.

i used a regular salvage kit on a normal item and also got a rare so an expert kit may only up your chances of getting a rare in return to it

Suuk · May 09, 2005, 12:41 PM // 12:41

Can add that some highly salvagables are worth salvaging (depending on your class). In my case for my W/N I salvaged several staffs and got upgrade components (which I do not use) and steel!

On topic: I expert salvaged around 45 charr hides and got one fur...

For the ppl not understanding the waste of money: I wanted the cool-looking Ascalon helmet...which I have now

Pevil Lihatuh · May 09, 2005, 04:40 PM // 16:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dewolow

I got tanned hide squares by using normal scavange item on the gear from humanoid creatures (for example grawls). So far it is 100%.

tanned hides are a common material and are in fact the common version of fur. Fur is what you will *rarely* get from something that normally gives tanned hides.

Sideways · May 09, 2005, 05:42 PM // 17:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crimson_Phoenix

I blew 44 char hides for no fur squares with the expert salvage kit, talk about an expensive waste.

Don't look at it as a waste.

You have 44 tanned hides now. You could sell those to another player, at 10gp each, and have enough to buy another kit, with a little left over.

No, it doesn't exactly outweigh the kit-and-a-half that you used, but it's better than nothing!

Rellok · May 09, 2005, 06:13 PM // 18:13

So to clarify, Fur squares are expert salvaged from Charr Hides? Not types of Charr Armor?

Thanks,

Matt

ShadowMaster · May 09, 2005, 06:20 PM // 18:20

Seems to me I saw an NPC just standin around outside of a town in post searing, can't remember where though. You could turn x amount of common materials into the more exotic materials, like steel and silk, pretty sure fur was listed too. Being an elementalist tho, didn't really care.....

KillersKarma · May 09, 2005, 06:26 PM // 18:26

how much is fur actually worth in gp? and what is it used for? making armor or what... i am so lost in all the things you can do in this game, if anyone wants to post and tell me everything about the game, the story and all the shit you can do... post plzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Sideways · May 09, 2005, 08:48 PM // 20:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShadowMaster

Seems to me I saw an NPC just standin around outside of a town in post searing, can't remember where though. You could turn x amount of common materials into the more exotic materials, like steel and silk, pretty sure fur was listed too. Being an elementalist tho, didn't really care.....

He was standing outside of the Sanitarium, and he does craft rare materials out of common ones.... but I don't think he crafts Fur Squares.

There is a Materials Crafter who crafts Fur Squares, but he wanders in the Shiverpeak Mountains, and can be difficult to find.

Really the best way is to salvage charr hides.

antny54 · May 09, 2005, 09:31 PM // 21:31

yeah this is ridiculous. I need fur for that cool ascalon warrior armor. I want this one since i dont want nething cheaper. I WANT FUR DAMMIT!!!

May 05, 2005, 12:03 PM // 12:03	#23
Lord Malikai Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: May 2005 Location: Colorado Guild: Imperial Fist Guild Leader Profession: W/E	Furs I got furs from the following so far Charr Hide Minotaur Hide Muggamo Hide (not sure on spelling, the centaur guys) So, I am assuming you can get furs from any type of Hide, just very rarely does it actually work.

May 05, 2005, 01:41 AM // 01:41	#21
Flattus Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: Apr 2005	i got a steel ingot from a regular sword using expert kit. sometimes i get 2-4 common items but doesn't happen frequently enough to compensate for the 400 price tag

May 05, 2005, 11:12 AM // 11:12	#22
thejynxed Academy Page Join Date: May 2005 Guild: Medieval Knights of Darkness [MKOD] Profession: A/	The price vs result ratios need tweaked. It's already rediculous enough seeing crafting materials sell for more than the final object is worth after it is crafted. I've paid far less for rares than I've ever paid for crafting materials. There is something wrong with that picture.

May 05, 2005, 01:49 PM // 13:49	#24
Belwas Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Apr 2005	The really unfortunate thing about fur being so rare, is the items you can make with it do NOT justify the difficulty in the slightest. In the end, the only real difference is, you look slightly more unique, since most players are having a hard time finding that fur.

May 05, 2005, 02:04 PM // 14:04	#25
Cymmina Krytan Explorer Join Date: Apr 2005 Profession: Me/N	You can get silk 100% of the time with an expert salvage kit on maguuma spider silk. Well, maybe not 100%, but I got it 4 out of 4 tries. Normal salvage kits just yield glittering dust.

May 06, 2005, 06:26 AM // 06:26	#26
mtxed Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: tdOt, Canada Profession: W/Mo	first two tan hide squares gave me two furs, then the next 20 gave me nothing.. sold one fur for 1000 so i guess it balances out plus i made some $.. not like i need the fur anyways, just like the rest of the rare items, dont need them, just sell em for gold.. not even sure i need gold either, got like 5k profits just from selling but i havent spent a penny yet!

May 07, 2005, 10:37 PM // 22:37	#27
madsoul Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: Mar 2005	i got 3 fur from 13 hides using expert kit...boy i feel lucky

May 08, 2005, 10:08 AM // 10:08	#28
Iderius Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: May 2005	I'm pretty sure i came across a wandering material trader somewhere in the icy region following Yak's Bend. Of course it would b difficult to point out exactly where for obvious reasons, but jus try straying off course a little. He has steel and fur squares. Venture off at own risk though, it can get pretty swarmy. good luk.

May 08, 2005, 04:38 PM // 16:38	#29
Crimson_Phoenix Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: May 2005	I blew 44 char hides for no fur squares with the expert salvage kit, talk about an expensive waste.

May 08, 2005, 09:21 PM // 21:21	#30
Daikini Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: Mar 2005	People dont seem to realize how much chance has to do with salvaging. Here's a little chart to act as a guide to your chances with salvaging: Using Salvage Kit: .......................Common Salvage Item......Rare Salvage Item Rare Material.................. Low ........................ Medium Common Mat. .................High ....................... Medium (Inc. runes, weap mod, etc.) Using Expert Salvage Kit: .......................Common Salvage Item.......Rare Salvage Item Rare Material...............Medium ........................High Common Mat...............Medium ........................ Low (Inc. runes, weap mod, etc.) So those are the basic percentages when it comes to salvaging. It isn't some concrete formula. Logically, Using the Expert salvage kit will give you a better chance of getting good stuff than using the normal salvage kit. A gold item is more likely to give you a good item than purple/blue/white items. If you expert salvage a gold item you will most likely salvage a good item. However, there is still a chance you will get a basic crafting material. For all of you out there looking for fur, try to maximize your chances for salvaging it. Its certainly possible to use a normal salvage kit on a white chaar hide and get a fur, but it isn't very likely. Use an expert salvage kit on all the different types of hides in the game and you will eventually get all the fur you need! Good Luck and I hope this little visual can help people better understand how crafting works.

May 09, 2005, 02:48 AM // 02:48	#31
Dewolow Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: May 2005	I got tanned hide squares by using normal scavange item on the gear from humanoid creatures (for example grawls). So far it is 100%.

May 09, 2005, 12:41 PM // 12:41	#33
Suuk Krytan Explorer Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: the Netherlands Guild: Lovers of Whisky and Women (LWW) Profession: E/	Can add that some highly salvagables are worth salvaging (depending on your class). In my case for my W/N I salvaged several staffs and got upgrade components (which I do not use) and steel! On topic: I expert salvaged around 45 charr hides and got one fur... For the ppl not understanding the waste of money: I wanted the cool-looking Ascalon helmet...which I have now

May 09, 2005, 06:13 PM // 18:13	#36
Rellok Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Madison, WI Profession: W/Mo	So to clarify, Fur squares are expert salvaged from Charr Hides? Not types of Charr Armor? Thanks, Matt

May 09, 2005, 06:20 PM // 18:20	#37
ShadowMaster Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Ozark Mountains Guild: Harbingers of Desolation Profession: E/N	Seems to me I saw an NPC just standin around outside of a town in post searing, can't remember where though. You could turn x amount of common materials into the more exotic materials, like steel and silk, pretty sure fur was listed too. Being an elementalist tho, didn't really care.....

May 09, 2005, 06:26 PM // 18:26	#38
KillersKarma Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: May 2005 Location: Home	how much is fur actually worth in gp? and what is it used for? making armor or what... i am so lost in all the things you can do in this game, if anyone wants to post and tell me everything about the game, the story and all the shit you can do... post plzzzzzzzzzzzzz

May 09, 2005, 09:31 PM // 21:31	#40
antny54 Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: May 2005 Guild: Silent But Deadly Profession: W/E	yeah this is ridiculous. I need fur for that cool ascalon warrior armor. I want this one since i dont want nething cheaper. I WANT FUR DAMMIT!!!